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Favorite villain?

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  • #38934
    User profile image Mike Bayer

      He may not be the most ruthless in the noir cycle, but sicko gangster Eddie Roman in The Chase (1946), played by Steve Cochran, has been my favorite for a long time, mostly because he’s as charming and weird as he is psychopathic.

      Who’s your favorite noir villain?

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      • #51470
        User profile image Kevin DC

          two others: Mrs. Danvers in Rebecca. The Franchot Tone character in Phantom Lady.

          • #51483
            User profile image Mike Bayer

              Mrs. Danvers: “You have nothing to live for, really, do you?” Such a witch I love her.

          • #51468
            User profile image Kevin DC

              Mike Figlia yes and Harry Powell, in another way, Icey Spoon also in Night of the Hunter. Uncle Charley (Joseph Cotten) in Shadow of a Doubt. Vera (Ann Savage) in Detour, nasty!

            • #51459
              User profile image cafesolo

                I still haven’t seen “The Chase” (Arthur Ripley, 1946), so I cannot comment on it yet.

                Beedeed’s choice of villains is a fine one.

                Tommy Udo (Richard Widmark) in “The Kiss of Death” (Henry Hathaway, 1947) is definitely the most villainous.

                However, there are so many great villains in film noir, because everyone is pretty much a villain, either by choice, by bad luck, or by fate.

                I love characters with multiple layers.

                Robert Ryan played many great villains for whom you can easily feel empathy and some who may not be villains after all, like in “Act of Violence” (Fred Zinnemann, 1946)

                Some Ryan villains who stand out: Montgomery in “Crossfire” (Edward Dmytryk, 1947), Smith Ohlrig in “Caught” (Max Ophüls, 1949), Jim Wilson in “On Dangerous Ground” ( (Nicholas Ray, Ida Lupino, 1951), Earl Pfeiffer in “Clash by Night” (Fritz Lang, 1952)*, Howard Wilton in “Beware My Lovely” (Harry Horner, 1952), Reno Smith in “Bad Day at Black Rock” (John Sturges, 1955), Sandy Dawson in “House of Bamboo” (Samuel Fuller, 1955) and Slater in “Odds Against Tomorrow” (Robert Wise, 1959).

                But the first villain who came to mind when I read Mike’s question is Dixon Steele (Humphrey Bogart) in “In a Lonely Place” (Nicholas Ray, 1950), arguably the most lovable/hatable villain in film noir history.

                (*) I know Mike doesn’t list “Clash by Night” as noir, because the murder that is supposed to happen got censored.

                • #51482
                  User profile image Mike Bayer

                    I love what you said about Ryan’s character in “Act of Violence” (one of my personal top three noirs). He really does turn out to be the character you feel sorry for, which is a cool dramatic reversal.

                  • #51462
                    User profile image cafesolo

                      Three more villains come to mind.
                      Mike Figlia (Lee J. Cobb) in “Thieves Highway” (Jules Dassin, 1949)
                      Reverend Harry Powell (Robert Mitchum) in “The Night of the Hunter” (Charles Laughton, 1955)
                      Hank Quinlan (Orson Welles) in “Touch of Evil” (Orson Welles, 1958).

                  • #44038
                    User profile image Beedeed

                      Favorite villain? That’s easy: Dan Duryea in almost any film I will go with Criss Cross 1949 for that amazing final scene with DD, Lancaster and De Carlo. And of course Too Late for Tears 1949 with awesome villainy from DD and Lizabeth Scott who turned in a great performance but she said she did not like the viciousness of her character.

                    • #43752
                      User profile image Kevin DC

                        Tommy Udo

                        • #44039
                          User profile image Kevin DC

                            How many times did DD slap a woman in a film?

                          • #43772
                            User profile image Mike Bayer

                              Oh yeah, can’t get much more villainous.

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